| Wayne |
| | 05/04/08 at 12:33 AM | | #1 |
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In many of the places I've hunted corundum in the last several years, I always seem to be finding this "yellow stuff"? It's like a shadow, or something? No.. it's not the yellow #9 I've found. This stuff is in small flakes and grains!
Yes.. I'm talking about GOLD!
Now before I go any longer in this talk.. I DO KNOW the difference between flakes of mica, and I'm no "fool" for pyrite!
Seems like every place I go to look for corundum.. gold is around the area too.. and we haven't brought any home!
A very good example of this is the trip we made to Habersham County, GA., in October '06. A very informative trip reportClick Here was made of our trip, thanks to Mike's great help! What wasn't told in the report was what we found while eating lunch at the Worley Prospect. While drinking a cup of coffee, I was surveying the area and found a pile of rock behind where we were sitting. I got up to see if this might be tailing from the old corundum prospect? Was it!.. No, just a pile of quartz that the gold prospectors had left many years ago. This location had three different prospects, one was corundum, the other was asbestus, and the other one was gold! Several pieces of the quartz on the pile had gold veins or sections. Did we bring any home? NO..
this hunt was for corundum!!
We've found gold in just about every location in Georgia and North Carolina where we've hunted the #9! To tell ya the truth, we've found many places that had more gold than corundum! The funny thing is, the old gold prospectors found corundum while looking for gold!
I've traded gold and silver futures on the NY Comex Exchange.
When you do this it has to be in "real time", you can't turn your back for a second in the 6 1/2 hours that the market is running! A dollar move on one contract of gold is $100, if you're holding 10 contracts, a dollar move is $1.000! It's not uncommon for the market to move up or down by $15 to $20 a day..
that's plus or minus $15,000 to $20.000 a day! You want some more gray hair? I know where you can find them.. real quick!
The metal market has gone up a great deal over the last 5 years!
And this has brought many into buying the high dollar metals.
And many has taken up the hobby of gold prospecting and selling old gold jewelry like they did in 1979.
The gold price on the Comex closed Friday at $856.10, up $7.20/troy oz.
And, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't go above $1,000 in the near future.
I've been doing a little thinking? I've been reading about all the metal detectors that are made for gold prospecting. They sure have come a long way since I bought the old GoldMaster back in 1971!! Also, been looking around for a pan or two. You don't see many copper gold pans anymore! I just thought if I got one it would be "old school". Do you know why the old prospectors used copper pans?
Oh well.. my first love will always be corundum!!!
But.. that "shadow" is starting to look a little better,
AS-I-NINE!!
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| Joe D. |
| | 05/04/08 at 07:54 AM | | #2 |
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Wayne,
Copper Gold Pans was to keep the bottom from rusting out after a few weeks of work. I still have two metal pans from Western adventures but really like the green plastic with the built in riffs much better. Even a greenhorn can catch some color in these.
My first time at Gold panning out on the American river in California many years ago taught me a valuable lesson. I found a few places that this Gold looking stuff was eroding from a small spring into the river. I filled up a Coke bottle with it but talked myself into throwing it away. I took some and put it between my thumb and finger and rubbed it. It appeared to disappear so I thought it must be Mica and threw the whole bottle of stuff away. I kept the bottle like a good outdoors man to throw away properly at a later time. Well I showed an old timer some of the stuff that was still clinging to the bottle and he says I was real lucky that I found Flower Gold. I was too embarrassed to inform him that the bottle was once filled with this stuff. You should know what you're doing and what you're looking for before going looking for it.
I thought that that movie called "Broke Back Mountain" was about Gold panning because I never met anyone who did much panning who didn't have a broke back. Gold panners weave more tall tales of the one that either got away or is around the next bend, then any fisherman.
Georgia is said to still have plenty of Gold to be found and I'm sure #9 also.
Joe D. |
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| dave t. |
| | 05/04/08 at 08:05 AM | | #3 |
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Can't answer why they were copper Wa9ne, but having the green plastic pans really helps to see the gold flakes and also a lot less weight to carry around. I feel the ol' timers would really have taken up our present day pans, especially with the edge ripples to act like a dredge chute.
Yes, there is plenty of gold still around. I have one of the present day gold detectors although it is not one of the $$$$$ ones. In this area I have stopped using it for gold as there is so much hematite to give false signals even with the black sand blocker turned up. I do still use it in the river where the kyakers frequent - a gold ring will blast your ears off!!
We have over 100 registered gold prospects in Polk and Morgan Co. along the NC state line. Gold streaks and flecks in the quartz is common, but around the prospects those ol' timers gleaned every piece they could as I find more away rather than at the prospects. I should say 'used' to find rather than 'do find'. My favorite haunt requires a 100 ft. rope to help me get up and down into a ravine. I just can't do that anymore. As a matter of fact I now have a broken foot and can't even hobble around the river bottoms.
Anyone interested in finding gold can be appeased on the Hiwassee and Ocoee rivers. They are full of flour gold which is interesting until you smear it with your finger in the bottom of the pan. It is so fine that it is almost impossible to gather. Would imagine a full day after that stuff would hardly produce a real flake or two. But to keep the fever up all you have to do is imagine where it came from originally!
Like you, with gold up around $900, the pot at the end of the rainbow is a lot more interesting now days. An then recalling the Gold Doorstop over in NC a little imagination would indicate there is another somewhere out there. dave t. 
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| Elmer McElreath |
| | 05/04/08 at 08:53 AM | | #5 |
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Hi Folks,
Metal Prices.
I saw a blurb on local news. Vandals? are going into houses that have been wired, but not sheetrocked, and stealing wire out of the walls. Anything copper or brass is at risk. Thats low. I've got a couple of Rangers in back. So far four people have stopped and asked about junkers. Police have set up a "Pimp" line for tips. Any body calling those lines are crazy or just have a death wish. Too many 'kiss and tell' cops.
Elmer..........KOR |
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| Tom K |
| | 05/04/08 at 08:58 AM | | #6 |
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Living in CT you don't hear much about finding gold but be curious I did a little research.It seems that a lot of silver was found in the area but not much gold to speak of.
Living in a very small town called Beacon Falls I never in a million years thought I would see it's name mentioned in the same sentence as gold!
Come to find out that the only appreciable amount of gold ever found in CT was in a small brook called Beacon Brook which is a stones throw from my home!
Did I ever go panning? No! I always told myself that after I retired I would have a go at it but after riding along the brook and seeing all the homes there I figured if I was ever seen with a gold pan in the brook someone would call the guys in the white costs!!!
There's not all that much public access to the brook either and I have to laugh as the State stocks it with very small "native" trout for ones fishing pleasure!!
Maybe I can hold a fishing rod in my hands and tie a gold pan to my ankle and kinda swoosh it around a little?
I guess all I can say is that if I lived where others on the board do I would NOT be in a conundrum as to which to bring home with me,,,,gold or corundum !
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| Tom K |
| | 05/04/08 at 09:29 AM | | #7 |
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Elmer,
That's nothing really new.
I can't remember exactly when but I would guess in the 70's the same thing was happening.Copper went way up in price and it wasn't uncommon for a plumber to return to a home he was working on the day before only to find that his work was headed for the scrap yard!
A fella could get a good piece of change selling "scrap" 4" type "L" copper tubing which was the norm here for house drains back then.
No one ever bothered with the wiring then but today's plastic plumbing makes the wire more attractive to the "night time prospectors"!
It's not only copper and brass anymore either. Just this past week I had to ward off a couple of "Rio Grande" swimmers from taking my dismantled steel shed out of a dumpster I rented!
I also saw 2 other "swimmers" at the scrap yard with a pick-up full of car batteries.The funny thing was that all the leads were new looking and cut !!!
The way I see it is with all the "riff raff" coming into this Country and no one doing anything about it,we have to defend ourselves against the "night time prospectors" sooooooo,,,,,
"WHEN THEY ASK FOR YOUR GUNS,,,,,,,,,,,
GIVE'EM LEAD INSTEAD"!!
How'd I get talkin' from Au to Pb??? LOL
Tom K.
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| Don Peck |
| | 05/04/08 at 10:15 AM | | #8 |
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| Read an article in the local paper last week that said a big car dealer down here got hit in one night for 128 catalytic converters stripped from the new cars on his lot. The theives took them for the platinum. |
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| Jack Cole |
| | 05/04/08 at 12:00 PM | | #9 |
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http://www.e-goldprospecting.com/html/locating_gold_in_alluvial_or_p.html
http://www.goldprospector.org/south-east.html
http://www.goldprospector.org/gold-rushes.html
Wayne,
Quartz is a good indicator for gold in most areas, though Quartz forms very slow and the gold has to precipitate out of solution to form into the quartz.
Now if you find Jasper in the river This is the best indicator for gold.
in my yard if i fine red or brown jasper and there is gold in it,
Well ever held of forty $$$ rock, very command to fine in gold areas, Though you need to search the strata's to fine the formations, Forty $$$ rock was in the 60s, $500.00... today
Stay with me were in Oregon, Basalt formations of 70% silica.
Hot springs from Washington to Mexico on my side of the fault line....wait a minute which fault line.....
Well just a start to wake the fever up. My Gold Cold started in 1962....
Wayne same all Black sand, theres more to sand the iron!!!
Check for the Platinum group some of them are over $6,000 OZ.
My area has all to be found though the Au. Ag. are easy to find.
I have buckets of back sand.
though i need to run it through a Plasma furnace to recover the
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| Wayne |
| | 05/04/08 at 12:23 PM | | #10 |
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Even brass flower holders at cemeteries have been stole..
some people's low is the very bottom!
Yes Jack, many of the old miners used copper pans coated with mercury to trap the fine gold and they were also used in the mercury amalgam process. In mercury amalgam gold mining processes, mercury often pollutes the nearby rivers and streams where most of the mining operations are carried out. In the water, metallic mercury changes into methyl mercury, a persistent, lingering form of mercury which builds up in food chains. And many streams in the old gold areas are still polluted! A copper pan would be more of a wall-hanger than a tool with the new designed plastic pans available today.
Dave T.
What happened to your foot!!!???
Yes, we do live in an area that still has plenty of gold. I'm told it is some of the purest in the world!
We used the old White's Gold-Master on the beeches in Hawaii and found plenty coins and several gold rings, wonder what we missed by not having today's high-tech machines!? But we did find most of the old pull-tabs from cans!
Has the NF given you any crap for using your detector around Ocoee/Parksville Lake or any other swimming holes in the Forest?
I'm sure that many of the gold "doorstops" haven't been found,
but I also wonder how many are located away from water? Using geology maps, and today's navigation to run the rock formations may turn up a few? You never know! |
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| Wayne |
| | 05/04/08 at 05:50 PM | | #11 |
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P.S.
One question:
Where would you sell raw gold that you find in North Georgia and
North Carolina? |
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| Jack Cole |
| | 05/04/08 at 11:33 PM | | #12 |
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http://www.dfwpreciousmetals.com/index.html
Wayne, here in Salem i have locals that buy Gold.
Though searching the web-sites this sounds like a good company to deal with
P.S. Some banks well buy Gold, Just like the old days... |
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| Wayne |
| | 05/05/08 at 12:33 AM | | #13 |
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The first gold rush in the United States and the "doorstop"...
Click Here |
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| dave t. |
| | 05/05/08 at 07:58 AM | | #14 |
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Wayne, after 5 years here in Polk Co. and attending the ol' barber shop I am finding they are 'starting' to accept my odd speech. (left Ma. when I was 17 and still can't get shed of it)
Anyway, have seen more than a few nuggets come out of these old timers pockets when the subject of gold comes up. Of course with the reputation that Polk Co. has, they could have possibly come out of 'someone's teeth'. LOL
The NF rangers havn't given me any grief 'yet'. Carry with me an old memo that states the only place a detector can't be used is in the old Dutch settlement and confederate lookout camp.
Busted foot just showed up one day. Just like all the other maladys that invade our bods. Arthur moved in long time ago also. To say nothing of ---- aw, what the heck, sounding like some ol' goat!!!
As for gold ore, just keep it. Processing and the in=between guys are also after their cut. As for old gold jewelry, gather up several bids from different jewelers. You may want to grade it yourself before doing so. BIG difference between 10K and 24K. Specific gravity test is not too difficult - look it up in Google. dave t. 
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| GemDragon |
| | 05/05/08 at 03:15 PM | | #15 |
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Hi Wayne
You do Futures trading!?! Well, we knew you were an Intrepid soul anyway! Little "chicken" traders like me just do ETFs these days! Hey,I agree gold is goin back to $1000+.Metals gave me my income the last three years!
Well, if any of the rocks you find are pretty enough white or gray quartz with eye-visible gold streaks or spots there are REALLY expensive cabochons like that these days being sold!I'm sure you could sell That type of "ore" to a lapidary!
The gold rush town of Sumpter OR is only 3 miles from us and has a Pay-dig for gold panning. It's about $65 day and I never wanted to mess with it, but heck,I ought to do a field trip report for the place!!! Around here whenever folks get a load of gravel dumped for a driveway or whatever they pan the dust from the bottom of the load and it always has some gold! A few lucky folks use a detector after the load is spread and one nieghbor got THREE cute little nuggets! GEE! I've never had the gold-itch at all, but I guess I really ought to do something 'cause of where we live. If we move away from here and I never even Tried for any gold,I'll feel pretty dumb later on!
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